{"id":54096,"date":"2022-01-10T08:27:35","date_gmt":"2022-01-10T08:27:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/?p=54096"},"modified":"2026-04-16T07:28:58","modified_gmt":"2026-04-16T07:28:58","slug":"qa-brad-jeffries","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/qa-brad-jeffries\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&#038;A: Brad Jeffries"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>Madonnas\u2018 Ex-Choreographer on the AIDS crisis 40 years ago and its impact on the<\/strong><strong> dance world<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><strong><em>by Markus V\u00f6gele\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Brad Jeffries choreographed for pop icon Madonna and \u201cBack to the Future\u201d star Michael J. Fox. \u201cI was in the perfect age range to get AIDS and die. And now I just turned 61, so now I am getting in the perfect age range to die of COVID. Two pandemics in my life\u2026 I got a big X on my forehead\u201d, says Jeffries.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Today Corona is the name on everybody\u2019s lips. 40 years ago AIDS made headlines. Is Corona a D\u00e9j\u00e0-vu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The current virus is not killing everyone who gets it. AIDS killed everyone who got it. Like if you got HIV, you were dead. It was a death sentence.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When did you hear about AIDS for the first time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I was in the dressing room of the Schubert theater in New York and I was doing <em>A Chorus Line<\/em>. So, I just hit Broadway about six months before. It was 82 or 83. I had a dressing roommate. Tommy was reading the Village Voice. And buried six or eight pages deep was this little blurb, about four inches high, that says \u201cSixth Man Dies of Gay Cancer.\u201d Because they didn\u2019t even have the AIDS name yet. They just knew that there was this cancer that was quickly killing gay people. Tommy was dead in three years. From AIDS. Like half of the guys in the show were dead.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_54098\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-54098\" style=\"width: 683px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-54098 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY-300x450.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY-600x900.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/bradNY.jpg 1026w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-54098\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Brad Jeffries as Broadway-Dancer.\u00a0 Photo privat<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Was anyone talking about AIDS at that time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was like the McCarthy era. Because if somebody you know died, you didn\u2019t really want to talk to people that didn\u2019t know that person because everyone was like: Slut! Pig! He deserved it. That was the sort of attitude, even of some gay people, you know. Once it started going, if you lost five pounds for some reason, people would give you a side eye. Thinking maybe he has the wasting disease, maybe he\u2019s got \u201cThe Disease.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What impact did AIDS have on the dance world?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It just decimated the dance industry. It was enormous because two thirds from the male dancers are gay and more than a half, maybe 70 percent, died of AIDS. In fact, that\u2019s why I had the choreography career that I had.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In what way?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Because \u2013 my contention is \u2013 the Michael Peters of the world, who choreographed <em>Thriller<\/em> and <em>Dream Girls<\/em>, the Michael Bennetts\u2026 there was a ton of really great choreographers and they all got taken by AIDS. And that left this void for young, untried, wet-behind-the-ears dancers to move up into those positions. I would never have gotten Madonna or <em>Back to the Future<\/em>. I was just a chorus dancer.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_54100\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-54100\" style=\"width: 673px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-54100 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/tumblr_nbhjciCN1m1qcaugio2_1280-673x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"673\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/tumblr_nbhjciCN1m1qcaugio2_1280-673x1024.jpg 673w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/tumblr_nbhjciCN1m1qcaugio2_1280-197x300.jpg 197w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/tumblr_nbhjciCN1m1qcaugio2_1280-768x1169.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/tumblr_nbhjciCN1m1qcaugio2_1280-300x457.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/tumblr_nbhjciCN1m1qcaugio2_1280-600x914.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/tumblr_nbhjciCN1m1qcaugio2_1280.jpg 821w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-54100\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A still of Brad Jeffries and Stevie Nicks from her music video &#8220;If Anyone Falls&#8221; (1983)<br \/>Photo by Neal Preston<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>But you choreographed for the Queen of Pop. How did you meet?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Madonna was not the Queen of Pop at that time. She saw me dancing on the American Music Awards, and then invited me to dinner to offer me the job of choreographing her Virgin Tour.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s she like?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Madonna has a superpower. And her superpower used to be that she could walk into a room and entice anyone. Madonna thought I was straight. I didn\u2019t disabuse her of the fact. It\u2019s like \u201cDon\u2019t ask, don\u2019t tell\u201d and it worked for me in Hollywood for a lot of jobs, because I would not have been hired for a lot of jobs if I was known to be gay. But I let her go along thinking that. I had already kissed her because she used to want attention so badly, that we would go out to dinner and at sushi bars she would start putting her tongue down my throat just so everybody in the restaurant would stop and look at her.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_54097\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-54097\" style=\"width: 850px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-54097 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/brad.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"850\" height=\"938\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/brad.jpg 850w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/brad-272x300.jpg 272w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/brad-768x848.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/brad-300x331.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/brad-600x662.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-54097\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Brad Jeffries \u00a9 Quelle privat<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Why did you hang up your dancing shoes?\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I retired after 9\/11 actually. In one year I lost my golden retriever, my mother, my father, my best friend, all in a period of 9 months. And prior to that I lost about 48 friends due to AIDS like Mykal Perea [Madonnas\u2018 backup dancer, author\u2019s note]. So I was shell shocked at that point. Then I decided to move to an Ashram. While living at the Ashram, I started doing volunteer work a Hospice facility. The doctor I was training under suggested that I try massage because she saw I was tactile and knew the body being a dancer. I discovered I like it and I graduated massage school in 2005.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recently you turned 61. What gift brought you the greatest pleasure? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I have already had miracles in my life because I had spinal meningitis as a kid and it left me with rheumatoid arthritis and the doctors at Stanford hold my parents that I would be in a wheelchair by the time I was 26. And when I started dancing I went into total remission and never had another attack. But I did have a cancer scare a couple weeks ago. I had a biopsy. The Tuesday after Christmas I got the results. Totally cancer free!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Madonnas\u2018 Ex-Choreographer on the AIDS crisis 40 years ago and its impact on the dance world &nbsp; by Markus V\u00f6gele\u00a0 Brad Jeffries choreographed for pop icon Madonna and \u201cBack to the Future\u201d star Michael J. Fox. \u201cI was in the perfect age range to get AIDS and die. 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