{"id":31765,"date":"2019-01-04T12:54:54","date_gmt":"2019-01-04T12:54:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/?p=31765"},"modified":"2019-01-04T12:54:56","modified_gmt":"2019-01-04T12:54:56","slug":"real-talk-with-freelance-choreographer-cathy-marston","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/real-talk-with-freelance-choreographer-cathy-marston\/","title":{"rendered":"Real Talk with Freelance Choreographer  Cathy Marston"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>by Armando Braswell<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What did you want to be when you were older?\nDid you always want to do what you are doing now?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No. When I was very young I wanted to be a police woman because there\nwas a TV program called &#8220;Juliet Bravo&#8221; and I thought that the female\ndetective was fantastic and I wanted to be her. My mum then&nbsp;told me that\nshe was actually an actress playing a police woman, so I&nbsp;wanted to be an\nactress, but there weren\u2019t any acting classes for children my age in the area.\nI started tap dancing first and then went to ballet, and that took over.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I\nlike dancers who&#8230;<\/strong> work from the inside out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I am afraid of&#8230; <\/strong>If I take time off, that I will be forgotten; that it would be very hard\nto climb back on the ladder so to speak. I don&#8217;t know if that is really the\ncase, but I have a feeling it might be.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Something you would change in the dance\nworld?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would make networking, in\norder to develop one\u2019s career, a far more transparent and less time consuming\nactivity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Something You would change in the real world?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That&#8217;s really hard, I mean there is clearly so many things to change socially, politically, financially and so on. My real world at the moment, is very much centered on my children&#8230;and right now I would really like it if my baby didnt cry when I drop her off at child care every morning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/3-sisters-2-copy-1024x682.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-31769\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/3-sisters-2-copy-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/3-sisters-2-copy-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/3-sisters-2-copy-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/3-sisters-2-copy-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/3-sisters-2-copy.jpg 1772w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>3 Sisters by Cathy Marston, Photo by Philipp Zinniker<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What is something you would change in ballet\neducation?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>S<\/strong>peaking\nabout \u2018ballet\u2019 education: More of a focus on nurturing creative and curious\ndancers and not only nurture those qualities in the few who aspire to be\nchoreographers. I would also love it if dance became part of education in\nnormal schools everywhere. In terms of general education, I wish dance was\nobligatory on every school\u2019s curriculum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Who is someone who has inspired you?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I had two choreographic teachers when I was at the Royal Ballet School,\nNorman Morris and David Drew. Sadly, both have passed on now, but they both\nreally inspired me to choreograph.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Do you have any goals?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gosh! I mean I am working at them every day. I love making work. There\nare many stories I want to tell through dance. I want to make them with the\nbest possible collaborators, the best possible dancers. The most creative teams\nthat I can find. That is my dream.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"731\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Caroline-Holden-5-copy-731x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-31773\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Caroline-Holden-5-copy-731x1024.jpg 731w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Caroline-Holden-5-copy-300x420.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Caroline-Holden-5-copy-600x840.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Caroline-Holden-5-copy-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Caroline-Holden-5-copy-768x1075.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Caroline-Holden-5-copy-scaled.jpg 1829w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 731px) 100vw, 731px\" \/><figcaption>Jane Eyre by Cathy Marston, Photo Caroline Holden <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What is your take on the lack of female\nchoreographers and directors?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s a huge question which I get asked a lot and I think there are many\nanswers, all of which have a grain of truth or more in them. It is so hard to\nanswer in general. I think starting a family has got a lot to do with it. I am\nexperiencing this at the moment, I have two children and it is really difficult\nmoment to get through&#8230; and I mean it\u2019s not a moment; it\u2019s a 18 year or more\ncommitment to \u2018grow&#8217; children. I am sure that is a stumbling block for some\nwomen&#8230;and men. Perhaps there is also some truth in the idea of a sort of\n\u2018club&#8217; of male leaders, it&#8217;s a residue&nbsp;left over from many years and its\nsometimes harder to break into that world as a woman. There are exceptions to\nevery rule so you can\u2019t really say that one thing or another is the only\nreason.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I made a very deliberate decision not to take time out. I have two\nchildren now; last summer I premiered Lolita (for the Copenhagen Summer Ballet)\na week before giving birth to my second child, Gilbert. &nbsp;Since he has been\nborn I have had three big productions, two of which were creations. But hey &#8211;\nit&#8217;s working! I love\ntraveling with my children as much as I love being at home with them. It brings\nanother dimension to our relationship as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One has to acknowledge that there is an imbalance. I think that one of\nthe problems is that people do not want to consider and admit to that\ninequality &#8211; even now. Until it is acknowledged it won\u2019t change. In the UK it\nis a big topic. It is frequently highlighted in the national papers and is\nregularly discussed at high levels.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"841\" src=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Victoria-Sibson-as-Bertha-Mason-and-Javier-Torres-as-Edward-Rochester-in-Cathy-Marstons-Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Emma-Kauldhar.-2-copy-1024x841.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-31774\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Victoria-Sibson-as-Bertha-Mason-and-Javier-Torres-as-Edward-Rochester-in-Cathy-Marstons-Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Emma-Kauldhar.-2-copy-1024x841.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Victoria-Sibson-as-Bertha-Mason-and-Javier-Torres-as-Edward-Rochester-in-Cathy-Marstons-Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Emma-Kauldhar.-2-copy-300x246.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Victoria-Sibson-as-Bertha-Mason-and-Javier-Torres-as-Edward-Rochester-in-Cathy-Marstons-Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Emma-Kauldhar.-2-copy-600x493.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Victoria-Sibson-as-Bertha-Mason-and-Javier-Torres-as-Edward-Rochester-in-Cathy-Marstons-Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Emma-Kauldhar.-2-copy-768x631.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Victoria-Sibson-as-Bertha-Mason-and-Javier-Torres-as-Edward-Rochester-in-Cathy-Marstons-Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Emma-Kauldhar.-2-copy-548x450.jpg 548w, https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Victoria-Sibson-as-Bertha-Mason-and-Javier-Torres-as-Edward-Rochester-in-Cathy-Marstons-Jane-Eyre.-Photo-Emma-Kauldhar.-2-copy.jpg 1772w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Northern Ballet&#8217;s Jane Eyre, a ballet by Cathy Marston. Photo Emma Kauldhar<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The major question in terms of action is whether the \u2018gatekeepers&#8217;,\nshould be programming purely on an artistic basis (and that doesn&#8217;t mean on a\nqualitative basis at all because obviously that&#8217;s subjective) or should they\ntry to look at other factors such as equality and diversity in various areas.\nMany people are very resistant to looking at anything other than artistic\ntaste.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a result of the topic being so hotly discussed in the UK, there is\nnow considerable work being done; I was involved, for example, in a project\nwith &#8216;Tonic Theatre&#8217; in the UK whose mission is to support the theatre industry\nto achieve greater gender equality. Sadlers Wells and Northern Ballet were both\ninvolved, both of which organisations I have worked with, and I hope we will\nsee some of their good intentions being transformed into action.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Advice for young women who want to be\nchoreographers?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well I guess it\u2019s &#8216;do it&#8217;. Be resilient. Keep doing it and then do it more. I have enjoyed\na slow-burn career. Maybe I noticed some of my colleagues having more of a\nsteep curve in terms of how their career builds and I am very happy that mine\nhas been so spread out &#8211; both in time and geography. Look further afield&nbsp;than might be your first\ninstinct. Find your place.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by Armando Braswell What did you want to be when you were older? Did you always want to do what you are doing now? No. When I was very young I wanted to be a police woman because there was a TV program called &#8220;Juliet Bravo&#8221; and I thought that the female detective was fantastic [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":31766,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[71],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-31765","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-stories"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31765","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=31765"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31765\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":31775,"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/31765\/revisions\/31775"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/31766"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=31765"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=31765"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.danceforyou-magazine.com\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=31765"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}